{"id":3019,"date":"2014-10-05T11:00:51","date_gmt":"2014-10-05T14:00:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ploff.net\/?p=3019"},"modified":"2014-10-05T11:10:03","modified_gmt":"2014-10-05T14:10:03","slug":"ba-178-necochea-y-oeste-pampeano","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ploff.net\/en\/ba-178-necochea-y-oeste-pampeano\/","title":{"rendered":"BA 178 &#8211; Necochea and La Pampa&#8217;s West"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"qtranxs-available-languages-message qtranxs-available-languages-message-en\">Sorry, this entry is only available in <a href=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/es\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3019\" class=\"qtranxs-available-language-link qtranxs-available-language-link-es\" title=\"Espa\u00f1ol\">Espa\u00f1ol<\/a>. For the sake of viewer convenience, the content is shown below in the alternative language. You may click the link to switch the active language.<\/p><p><b><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">Necochea pide ayuda h\u00eddrica, el agua le sobra. Nosotros tambi\u00e9n pedimos ayuda h\u00eddrica, hacia el oeste nos falta.<\/span><\/b><\/p>\n<p>Hoy simplemente me voy a limitar a compartir una entrevista excelente. Joannie, la entrevistada, es una fiel defensora de la Naturaleza. Para m\u00ed, es un orgullo escucharla defender al medio ambiente y, adem\u00e1s, <i>es mi t\u00eda abuela\u2026<\/i> En un momento tira una <i>analog\u00eda del t\u00e9 y el balde<\/i> que me pareci\u00f3 clar\u00edsima para comprender el comportamiento hidrol\u00f3gico del suelo&#8230; <b>Ella Toda, signo de humildad y sabidur\u00eda ecosist\u00e9mica<\/b>. En efecto, somos 80% agua\u2026 Me hizo recordar a la <i>Teor\u00eda de Gaia<\/i>. Gaia puede sobrevivir <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">sin<\/span> nosotros, nosotros no podemos sobrevivir sin Gaia.<\/p>\n<p>Excelente el programa tambi\u00e9n: <i>caserito, caserito<\/i>. Los vecinos de los campos en Necochea, Buenos Aires, est\u00e1n tratando de organizarse para formar una <b>Comisi\u00f3n de Emergencia H\u00eddrica<\/b>, pero les est\u00e1 costando demasiado. El problema es la continua cantidad de zonas anegadas (inundadas) y la ausencia de estructuras de contenci\u00f3n para almacenar, retener y luego <i>largar de a poco <\/i>el agua que termina inundando esas zonas.<\/p>\n\r\n   <div class=\"video-wrap widescreen\">\r\n   <iframe src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/jZCs0kCDCwQ\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen frameborder=\"0\" ><\/iframe>\r\n   <\/div>\r\n   \n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">Considero (muy humildemente <\/span><i style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">y s\u00f3lo trato de imaginar soluciones, <\/i><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">no tengo ni idea todav\u00eda de como parametrizarlas y comprobar \u201ccient\u00edficamente\u201d que funcionan, que se yo, simplemente <\/span><i style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">me permito <b>sentir<\/b><\/i><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"> y decir que es lo que siento que es correcto o QU\u00c9 se puede hacer como opci\u00f3n)<\/span><i style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"> <\/i><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">que este tipo de problem\u00e1tica, al ser de ra\u00edz ambiental, deber\u00eda poder presentar soluciones multidisciplinarias que por lo general tardan mucho en realizarse a trav\u00e9s de la pol\u00edtica, justamente por tratarse de la naturaleza y sus tiempos de depuraci\u00f3n, amortiguaci\u00f3n, disipasi\u00f3n, los cuales no se condicen en absoluto con los tiempos de 4 o menos a\u00f1os de nuestros representantes pol\u00edticos, ni mucho menos en los 2 a\u00f1os que duran los cargos de las autoridades universitarias, las cuales <\/span><i style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">forman<\/i><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"> profesionales desde la repetici\u00f3n, y no desde la creatividad. Ergo, siempre y cuando esperemos que, desde el gobierno, desde la pol\u00edtica <\/span><b style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">directamente<\/b><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"> y <\/span><b style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">primeramente<\/b><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"> surja una soluci\u00f3n, nos quedaremos esperando\u2026<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Campo-Merco-Aereas-Chivilcoy.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3016\" alt=\"BA 178 - Campo, Merco Aereas, Chivilcoy\" src=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Campo-Merco-Aereas-Chivilcoy.jpg\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\" data-wp-pid=\"3016\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Campo-Merco-Aereas-Chivilcoy.jpg 600w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Campo-Merco-Aereas-Chivilcoy-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Campo-Merco-Aereas-Chivilcoy-67x50.jpg 67w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Por eso, y es tan solo una humilde opini\u00f3n, una sugerencia ser\u00eda:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">PRIMERO<\/span>) Conformar una &#8220;Comisi\u00f3n H\u00eddrica <b>Temporaria<\/b>&#8220;, nombrando un tesorero, y que los que quieran participar presenten 1) declaraci\u00f3n de ingresos y 2) una donaci\u00f3n del 2%, 5%, 10% o lo que los vecinos consideren posible de los ingresos declarados, y manejarse con ese dinero.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">SEGUNDO<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">) <\/span><b style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"><i>\u00bfC\u00f3mo hacerlo?<\/i><\/b><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">, con el concepto de \u201cMINGAS\u201d. Ac\u00e1 en Santa Rosa, La Pampa, existe una Feria por la Alimentaci\u00f3n Sana, compuesta por feriantes diversos y muchos huerteros. Ellos organizan &#8220;<\/span><i style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">Mingas<\/i><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">&#8220;, donde todos ellos <\/span><b style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">como grupo<\/b><i style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">VAN<\/i><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"> a casas, que soliciten previamente la MINGA, y van todos los que puedan con la gente que puedan, a labrar la tierra, acomodar patios, y prepararlos para HUERTAS, tambi\u00e9n <\/span><i style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\">instruyen<\/i><span style=\"font-size: 14px; line-height: 1.5em;\"> a los beneficiarios. Todo absolutamente gratis (en el caso de Necochea, los gastos de viaticos y materiales de posibles proyectos, saldr\u00eda de las donaciones) \u2013 No s\u00e9\u2026, formar una comisi\u00f3n, y que los m\u00e1s jovenes conformen grupos de trabajo vecinal. Los m\u00e1s grandes administrando, los m\u00e1s j\u00f3venes yendo a solucionar problemas con su mano de obra, en equipo, en comunidad.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">TERCERO<\/span>) <b><i>\u00bf\u00bfC\u00f3mo hacerlo R\u00c1PIDO??<\/i><\/b>, Afortunadamente, y sacando de lado todo uso banal, Facebook (las redes sociales en general) sirven para crear GRUPOS de trabajo y ORGANIZARSE R\u00c1PIDO. Esto es algo ya muy reiterativo en este sitio web, pero es que <b>el potencial de comunicaci\u00f3n<\/b> y, ergo, de acci\u00f3n, de las redes sociales, es tremendo. Con ellas, debemos poder solucionar nuestros problemas h\u00eddricos de forma cooperativa.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Necochea-Inundaciones-2014.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3017\" alt=\"BA 178 - Necochea Inundaciones 2014\" src=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Necochea-Inundaciones-2014.jpg\" width=\"631\" height=\"280\" data-wp-pid=\"3017\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Necochea-Inundaciones-2014.jpg 631w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Necochea-Inundaciones-2014-300x133.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Necochea-Inundaciones-2014-67x29.jpg 67w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 631px) 100vw, 631px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><i>All\u00ed en Necochea les sobra agua. Aqu\u00ed, en el oeste pampeano, gente muere sedienta por falta de agua (pero ojo, nuestros vinos mendozinos siguen vendiendose re bien afuera eh). C\u00f3mo argentino, no comprendo estas cosas. O las comprendo, y me frustro\u2026<\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-SEQUIA-LA-PAMPA.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3018\" alt=\"BA 178 - SEQUIA LA PAMPA\" src=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-SEQUIA-LA-PAMPA.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"266\" data-wp-pid=\"3018\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-SEQUIA-LA-PAMPA.jpg 400w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-SEQUIA-LA-PAMPA-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-SEQUIA-LA-PAMPA-67x44.jpg 67w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>A los ejemplos, aqu\u00ed en Santa Rosa, y enteramente desde FACEBOOK, hemo realizado ciclos de cine activo (con reproduccion de pel\u00edculas de corte ambiental durante 4 d\u00ed\u00e1s); realizamos la Jornada Mundial contra Monsanto charlando con familias que ni siquiera saben que exist\u00edan estas problem\u00e1ticas; organizamos la Masa Cr\u00edtica (movida en bici y mundial, en pos del uso de la bici); se llev\u00f3 a cabo un taller de concientizaci\u00f3n ambiental entre estudiantes de diferentes facultades, a los fines de no conservar el conocimiento acerca del ciclo del consumo a unos pocos; nos movilizamos contra una obra que se iba a hacer en un estacionamiento sobre una plaza que los vecinos usaban los domingos\u2026 \u00a0<i>en 3 d\u00edas de gesti\u00f3n por internet, se creo un grupo y PUM, <\/i>de repente, como por arte de magia, cuando la gente se organiza POR S\u00cd S\u00d3LO, reci\u00e9n ah\u00ed, es casi m\u00e1gico, pero <b><i>ah\u00ed S\u00cd<\/i><\/b> la pol\u00edtica se amolda, se acopla, y cambia las leyes, las ordenanzas, los fondos&#8230;<br \/>\nEn otras palabras, <b>la verticalidad no va m\u00e1s. Necesitamos Horizontalidad<\/b>. Recomiendo el libro de Enrique Agilda &#8220;Cooperaci\u00f3n. Doctrina de la Armon\u00eda&#8221; y como complemento el bolet\u00edn de la semana pasada: &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/2014\/09\/ba-176-viajando-hacia-un-comun-denominador-se-llega-a-la-horizontalidad\/\" target=\"_blank\">Viajando hacia un denominador com\u00fan se llega a la Horizontalidad<\/a>&#8220;.<br \/>\nPero (y en definitiva),<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00bfEs muy trillado imaginar terrazas de cultivo (&#8220;escalones bajando&#8221;) en los lugares donde las curvas de nivel son muy pronunciadas? o,<\/li>\n<li>\u00bfes muy de volado pensar en donar zonas con pendientes, unas pocas hect\u00e1reas de los campos, LAS &#8220;FRANJAS&#8221; con pendientes, a grupos de j\u00f3venes con nuevos proyectos de Ecoaldeas? \u2013 para complementar: ver documental espa\u00f1ol en youtube &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=hGqpf3RX0Ik\" target=\"_blank\">Stop! Rodando el Cambio<\/a>&#8220;; y el\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/2014\/08\/ba-170-desmitificacion-del-prejuicio-de-hippie-ismo-obsoleto-que-se-tiene-sobre-las-ecoaldeas\/\" target=\"_blank\">bolet\u00edn n\u00famero 170<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>\u00bfEs ut\u00f3pico so\u00f1ar con camiones hidrantes que retiren el agua excedente en zonas anegadas (con previo plan de protocolo por parte de, no s\u00e9, se me ocurre &#8220;Defensa Civil&#8221; ya que se encargan del fuego, porque no del agua tambi\u00e9n) y traer el agua a piletones de almacenamiento en el oeste pampeano para poder regar los suelos otra vez?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>No s\u00e9, ideas.<\/p>\n<p>Nuevamente: Joannie, FELICITACIONES!!!!!! =)<\/p>\n<p>Siempre recordar\u00e9 mi infancia endulzada por los atardeceres y las aventuras vividas ah\u00ed con mi hermano Alexander, all\u00ed tuve mis primeros contactos certeros y profundos con la Naturaleza y te debo mi pasi\u00f3n por ella enteramente a ti.<\/p>\n<p>Ser\u00e1 hasta la semana siguiente,<br \/>\nBrian Longstaff.-<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Anclado-en-1990.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3015\" alt=\"BA 178 - Anclado en 1990\" src=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Anclado-en-1990.jpg\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1200\" data-wp-pid=\"3015\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Anclado-en-1990.jpg 1600w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Anclado-en-1990-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Anclado-en-1990-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Anclado-en-1990-67x50.jpg 67w, https:\/\/ploff.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/10\/BA-178-Anclado-en-1990-800x600.jpg 800w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1600px) 100vw, 1600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sorry, this entry is only available in Espa\u00f1ol. 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